More from Indy 500 Open Testing with 100th Indianapolis 500 winner Alexander Rossi, Christian Lundgaard, Graham Rahal and Santino Ferrucci

ROGER:

This is Roger Penske and you're listening to Pit Pass Indie, sponsored by Penske Truck Rental.

BRUCE:

IndyCar fans, it's time to start your engines. Welcome to Pit Pass Indy, a production of Evergreen Podcast. I'm your host, Bruce Martin, a journalist who regularly covers the NTT IndyCar Series. Our goal at Pit Pass Indy is to give racing fans an insider's view of the exciting world of the NTT IndyCar Series in a fast-paced podcast featuring interviews with the biggest names in the sport. I bring nearly 40 years of experience covering IndyCar and NASCAR, working for such media brands as NBCSports.com, SI.com, ESPN SportsTicker, Sports Illustrated, AutoWeek and SpeedSport. So let's drop the green flag on this episode of Pit Pass Indy. Welcome to Pit Pass Indy presented by Penske Truck Rental as we continue our fifth season of giving IndyCar fans an inside look at the most exciting form of racing on the planet, the NTT IndyCar Series. And a big thanks to Penske Truck Rental for helping bring you the inside stories of IndyCar from the paddock to the racetrack to the highways and streets of America. PitPass Indy was at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway for last week's big two-day Indy 500 open test. All 34 cars and drivers that will compete at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in May in preparation for the 109th Indianapolis 500 were on the famed 2.5 mile oval on Wednesday, April 23rd and Thursday, April 24th for two solid days of testing. The combined laps for the two-day test were 3,368, with 2024 Indianapolis 500 pole winner Scott McLaughlin of Team Penske the fastest of the two-day test. McLaughlin turned a lap at 232.686 miles per hour in the number three Pennzoil Chevrolet during the two-and-a-half-hour high boost session that allowed teams to make qualification simulations for the Indy 500. Today's Pit Pass Indy is another fast one as we have more exclusive interviews from the two-day test while also looking forward to this week's Children's of Alabama Indy Grand Prix at Barber Motorsports Park. McLaughlin is the defending winner at Barber and will attempt to go back-to-back on the beautiful picturesque road course in 2025. Before heading to Barber, IndyCar drivers and teams were focused on the 109th Indianapolis 500. Let's kick off our exclusive PitPass Indy interviews with the driver who won the 100th Indianapolis 500 in 2016, Alexander Rossi, who is now with ECR. Joining us now on Pit Pass Indy is the winner of the 100th Indianapolis 500. It's Alexander Rossi of ECR Racing. They're talking about another sellout this year at the Indianapolis 500. The last time the race was sold out, you were the winner. So if they do sell the race out, should I put the money down that you're gonna win this year's race?

BRUCE:

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ALEXANDER:

I don't think I'm allowed to give betting advice, but maybe that's what I've been needing this whole time.

BRUCE:

Well, you look for any omen that you can get. But hey, we're at Indy 500 open testing. How did the car feel with the extra weight of the hybrid? Because this is the first time the hybrid has been used on the oval at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

ALEXANDER:

Well, I mean, I used it in 24. twice with McLaren and with ECR. So for me it's not the first time, but obviously for the series it is. And I mean, it's not better. It's not better.

BRUCE:

Does it feel heavier? Yeah. Sure does. And how much of a challenge does that make when you're at speed to have a heavier rear end car going through some of these turns because there's no margin for error.

ALEXANDER:

Yeah, for sure. You know, I think the underlying balance and weakness of the car has always been the right front tire in traffic and dirty air when you're more than like two or three cars back. And that's just been now exaggerated a little bit. So it doesn't, it's not like the car's turned on its head. It's not like there's anything evil that it does. Just the, with anything, with weight, with track temp, the existing problems that you have just get incrementally worse. And so that's kind of what we're dealing with.

BRUCE:

New to this year's Open Test is on the second day in the morning, you're going to get two and a half hours for qualifying sims with the extra boost that you'll have on Fast Friday and during qualifications. The speed should be much higher. Do you like that?

ALEXANDER:

The purist in me doesn't, just because there's something special about Fast Friday, right? And everyone comes in, and then the morning time, and there's the anticipation of what speeds are going to happen. And now that you're doing it in April, you kind of get a preview. And so I understand why we're doing it from a series and manufacturer perspective, but it's going to take a little bit of the allure out of Fast Friday, I think.

BRUCE:

But in terms, though, of turning the car around from that qualifying sim and then doing the final two and a half, three hours on the second day to race sim, how difficult is that for the crew and for the driver? Because now you've been out there going maybe three miles an hour faster. Now you're back in race trim.

ALEXANDER:

For the crew, it's very hard. For us, it's very straightforward. It's always easier when they slow it back down than when you go the other way.

BRUCE:

And as far as the season goes, how would you judge your first season with ECR? How's it gone? It looks like you've meshed pretty well with Ed.

ALEXANDER:

Yeah, for sure. You know, I would say it's been generally positive. I mean, I'd say it's a B minus maybe. You know, I think we've certainly been quick on Saturdays and haven't quite executed on Sundays yet. But, you know, a lot of the pieces are there and we'll continue to get better every weekend.

BRUCE:

We're just maybe 100 yards from Victory Lane at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Do you ever look at that place and say, this is where my life really changed? No, maybe in 10 years, though. But then a second trip there would definitely be. That would be good, yeah. All right, well, Alexander Rossi, good luck in your quest for a second Indianapolis 500 victory in your first season with ECR. Thank you. Thank you for joining us on Pit Pass Indy.

ALEXANDER:

Appreciate it.

BRUCE:

Christian Lungard is in his first season with Errol McLaren after making his IndyCar debut on the Indianapolis Motor Speedway road course on August 14, 2021, for Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing. That race led to a full-season deal with RLL, where he raced from 2022 to 2024. A new team has helped Lungard get off to a fast start in 2025, as he is third in the championship standings behind the leader, Alex Pillow, and second place, Kyle Kirkwood. Pit Pass Indy has an exclusive interview with Lungard from the Indy 500 Open Test. Joining us now is Christian Lungard, Errol McLaren. Christian, in the 500 Open Test, you've had a chance to see how the car feels with the extra weight of the hybrid. Does it feel any different?

CHRISTIAN:

This is where I got a funny response to that, because I've never driven this car without the hybrid.

BRUCE:

On the Oval, you haven't. I'm not talking about an Aero McLaren, I'm talking about an Indy car.

CHRISTIAN:

But that's what's difficult, because I've only driven the Aero McLaren car with the hybrid at IMS, at the Speedway. But not on the Oval.

BRUCE:

I'm asking you about your times with your previous team, driving around here without the hybrid.

CHRISTIAN:

But that's what's difficult for me, because it's a different car. It's a different team. And a different engine. And a different engine, so I don't have that reference. I mean, in a sense, it feels lazier. Other than that, I don't think there's much of a difference at the moment that I feel. Obviously, I think once we get into proper race running or proper core boost tomorrow, we will have a better indication of what the differences are. Do you feel the extra weight? Yeah, I mean, I think we've felt the weight everywhere we've been since. So, yeah.

BRUCE:

The last couple of tests that you've been here with a different car, with a different engine, with a different team, On the oval, the speeds weren't that great. Do you feel very confident that with the package you have now, you're back in the contending status for the Indianapolis 500?

CHRISTIAN:

I mean, that's the hope, right? I think that the car is good, the car is fast. So yes, I mean, the momentum that we're building currently, regardless of what track it is, we're moving on. And then we're doing well, so it's... We want to continue doing it and we want to build momentum from Barber in the GP going into the month of May, knowing what the team has done prior at the Speedway. So very confident, of course.

BRUCE:

Did you get a good indication as to why the test was delayed so long today? It was nearly a three-hour delay.

CHRISTIAN:

Nope, I was just looking at my phone waiting for someone to tell me when to be in the car.

BRUCE:

Hey, you're off to a great start of the season. You're third in points as IndyCar will head to Barber. What has been the big reason why things are getting off to such a great start this year?

CHRISTIAN:

I think the hard work that we've put in in the off-season and off the track, even on track, just getting to understand each other. And our approach has always been just keep it simple. Simplicity is key. And we're not really trying to overanalyze things, at least on the seven car. We just want to move on and kind of take the basics and take the big hitters and learn from those.

BRUCE:

There's one more day left for testing. And is that the day you're going to do the speed sims in the morning? And do you leave here Thursday night feeling like the team has a good baseline setup when you return in May?

CHRISTIAN:

Yeah, I mean, I think we already have a pretty good baseline set up just from what the team's done in the past, so full confidence going into tomorrow and even this afternoon. Obviously, we'll keep building on that and moving on to the month of May.

BRUCE:

Well, Christian Lundgaard, good luck both in the open test and at Barber next week. Thank you for joining us on Pit Pass Indy. Thank you. We'll be right back to Pit Pass Indy after this short break.

WILL:

This is Will Power of Team Penske, and you're listening to Pit Pass Indy presented by Penske Truck Rental.

BRUCE:

Welcome back to Pit Pass Indy. Let's continue our exclusive interviews for Pit Pass Indy with Graham Rahal, who is back at the Indianapolis 500 to make his 18th start in the big race on May 25th. Joining us now on Pit Pass Indy is Graham Rahal. Rahal Letterman, Lanigan Racing. Hey, kudos on the return of the orange vest driver's suit. You also got a lot of names on that car from a lot of fans that want to be a part of your effort, and how cool is that?

GRAHAM:

Yeah, it's sweet to see today. I mean, how many was it, Cat? 1,025 or 1,075 names are on the car, which is, you know, really cool, and we raised $70,000, and, you know, the realities are, like, it was an awesome experiment for our foundation and for United Rentals, you know, to benefit Turns for Troops, because, you know, we're always trying to raise more money, but we can do fancy golf tournaments, and we can do this, and we can do that, It's hard to ever raise that sort of money in a fundraising event like we just did. All that money is going to the bottom line to donate. And so very successful, very exciting for us. We want to thank everybody who did support it. I mean, it's tremendously powerful, and I know that we're working on some stuff. People are wondering where their names are on the car. Hopefully, we'll get some of that stuff out soon so they can look at the car, identify where they're at, and have some fun. But it's certainly cool to see. How much of an investment did it cost for them to get their name on the car? I think minimum was $50 minimum donation. And so obviously 50 to raise 70,000, we had some people donate well over that, and we had some people write on the number, and we're just grateful for anybody and everybody that did it. So like I said, there's a lot of names, there's a lot of people. I was reading the names today, and there were a lot of people that I personally know that never said a word to me that I saw their name on there. So for me, it was very, very cool.

BRUCE:

More importantly, you get the fans involved, and that's something that a lot of race fans don't often get a chance to do, to tell their family members, their friends, hey, my name's on that card.

GRAHAM:

Yeah, no, it's, oh, for sure, it's cool, man. I think it engages a lot of people into a greater good, and that's what we're trying to do. And Memorial Day weekend, obviously a very special, special weekend for military, and so it's very cool to see.

BRUCE:

Speaking of engaging a lot of people, the first day of the open test started out beautiful weather. Had a little bit of an issue though with telemetry. How disappointed are you to maybe see that that happened because the spectator mounds have a lot of people over there?

GRAHAM:

Yeah, there's more right now. Actually, there's a lot of people in Turn 2 Grandstand. I was very, very surprised. Look, these things happen. I mean, the realities of the situation are we have more track time than we do tires anyway. So kind of worked out just fine. Um, you know, we'll be able to turn a lot of laps this afternoon if we want to. Um, you know, even the veterans in that first hour and 15 minutes already, I think some guys may have even gone to a second set of tires. So, you know, you're already burning through them. Um, you know, we'll see how it turns out, but I mean, obviously it's not ideal for IndyCar, but we understand things happen.

BRUCE:

The hybrid has never been used in the Indianapolis 500. You're testing with it this week. How much different does the car feel with it on?

GRAHAM:

Well, balance-wise, not a ton, but, you know, it's actually, it's still pretty damn powerful. You know, when you pull it, even if you're flat, like, you can feel it. I mean, it's definitely a boost. It's going to be very interesting. I think in the race, it will change the racing dynamic quite a lot. I feel like if you get choked up in the short shoot, that was such a momentum loss before, guys just drive around you. I think it's a usable thing. It'll be very interesting to see how you regenerate in the race if you're flat, things like that. I think it's going to be a good tool.

BRUCE:

With extra weight in the rear of the car, how do you balance it out so that you don't have the effect of where the rear wants to swing toward the wall?

GRAHAM:

The biggest things on the regeneration side when you lift off the throttle, if you're utilizing partial throttle or off throttle to regenerate, it does create some oversteer. It does on the road courses too. That's probably the thing we've got to watch the most is how, again, how do you utilize that and how do you regenerate? You can do it manually too. So that's the things that we need to look at. If you're in a big draft or something and you're lifting, you could just do it on the straightaways by yourself. You don't necessarily need it in the corner. So there's a lot that we got to think about though.

BRUCE:

Two quick questions. Our last two questions for Graham Rahal. We're getting closer to a sellout at the Indianapolis 500. We may have it this year and just how huge would that be?

GRAHAM:

I mean it would be nice considering you know some of the challenges of the early season and stuff it would be great to see but I think as Kyle Larson even said yesterday, he's been to the Masters, he's done it all, and the Indy 500 stands alone. It's a different event than almost any other, and so it would be awesome to have a sellout, and hopefully Mother Nature's kind to us this year. Although a late race last year was kind of awesome, but hopefully Mother Nature's good.

BRUCE:

And final question, we're heading to Barber Motorsports Park, one of your best tracks. How do you feel you'll do this year?

GRAHAM:

Yeah, I mean, I'm excited to get there. I don't, you know, I mean, we had a pretty solid test there, actually. Very close on pace to the Penske cars. So fingers crossed, we'll be able to maintain that and have a good weekend.

BRUCE:

Well, Graham Rahal, good luck. Good luck in the Indianapolis 500 and at Barber. Thank you for joining us on Pit Pass Indy. Thank you. Rhenus VeeKay of Del Coin Racing will attempt to make the Indianapolis 500 field for the sixth time in his career, but unlike the previous five, he is on a different team. From 2020 until 2024, VeeKay was a key member of ECR and had a tremendous record in Indianapolis 500 qualifications. In 2020, VeeKay became the fastest rookie in Indianapolis 500 history when the then 19-year-old qualified fourth with a four-lap average of 230.704 miles an hour. In 2021, he made the first of three straight front row starts, including third in 21, third in 2022, and second in 2023. Last year, VeeKay continued to qualify in the front two rows of the Indy 500 when he started seventh, the middle of row two. VeeKay hopes to continue that speed and qualification success and contend for the victory with his new team at Dale Coyne Racing, as he tells me in this exclusive interview for Pit Pass Indy. Joining us now is a man who always qualifies well for the Indianapolis 500. It's Rhenus VeeKay who is now with Dale Coyne Racing. You've had a great streak of starting in the front two rows here. You're still the fastest teenager in Indianapolis 500 history from the 2020 race. How do you feel you'll be able to do this year with Dale Coyne Racing? Do you think you have a really good shot at maybe contending for the front row or the second row of the 109th Indianapolis 500?

RHENUS:

I mean, it's always hard to say this early on, but I think from what I can bring to the team, when I see the teamwork and the philosophy they're bringing and the car, the way it's built, I believe we should definitely at least be contending with the fast valve appearance. And I mean, from there we get a shot at, well, doing what we're here for, trying to win the race.

BRUCE:

We're at the Indy 500 open test. It's the first time that the full field has had a hybrid on at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway 2.5 mile oval. How different does the car feel here?

RHENUS:

It feels different. Definitely does. It's a bit heavier and you You feel it most when you're in dirty air, when the aero goes away, and you can really feel the weight of the car being shifted backwards. But I'm sure everybody will find a way to get around it and get the best out of it. So it'll shake things up. It'll be different than last year, but I'm sure it'll be an advantage for us in some way.

BRUCE:

The first laps at speed with the hybrid on it, with the weight change, did it get your attention?

RHENUS:

Not really, actually. It actually felt pretty normal. Like I said, it kind of feels normal in race run when there's nobody around, you're in race downforce, you have a lot of downforce to push you down into the track. But once there's dirty air in the conversation, that's when you really feel the difference and you lose a lot of front grip and weight on the front.

BRUCE:

Have you felt the extra boost of horsepower that the hybrid is supposed to give you?

RHENUS:

Yes, I was actually surprised because it's more than I feel like it is at some road courses, so that surprised me a little.

BRUCE:

Now as far though as your first season with Dale Coyne Racing, how would you say things have gone, how well have you meshed with the team?

RHENUS:

I think so far so good. We started out the season with a top 10 in St. Pete. Really strong. Really, really happy with that performance. Then to Thermal. We were running seventh until we had a tire issue and unfortunately finished 17th. But again, strong and running. Unfortunately, Long Beach was a bit of a harder weekend. I couldn't really find a way to get the setup working. But coming into the month of May, into Barber, IndyRoadCourse, I'm really confident we should be competing for top tens in the next few months.

BRUCE:

And after the Barber Road Course, it's the Grand Prix at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, where you've won before. So you have to feel like that's one that you have circled on your list of races that you expect to do well.

RHENUS:

Yeah, no, exactly. I feel like we're coming into a stretch where we should be very competitive and we should be challenging towards the front all the time.

BRUCE:

As far as the 109th Indianapolis 500, to be able to come here, you know what the day is going to be like. We're getting closer to the race being sold out, which would be huge. Just how excited do you get this time of year?

RHENUS:

I'm really excited. Of course, for me, I've been with Ed Carpenter for five years, who, without a question, always bring quick cars to the track here. Now, with Docoin Racing, I mean, I'm in the car that was bumped last year. So, people have the expectations we're going to be struggling, but I believe we're going to be very strong this year. So, I feel like that's a lot of fun to prove the people wrong and show that we can build a really quick car around the speedway.

BRUCE:

With the start of the season the way you've had it, how much is the confidence level building with you and the team?

RHENUS:

My confidence is building and I mean it's hard work definitely, but I think we're just getting to know each other within the team and getting better every time we're out on track.

BRUCE:

And the goal here for anybody, any driver, any race team, is to leave here with your baseline set up ready when everybody returns for the month of May. How confident are you that you're getting closer to the baseline?

RHENUS:

Yeah, I mean, I haven't run today yet, so unfortunately we had a few technical gremlins, but I think we... We have the right philosophy, and we'll get a feel of it in the next few days, but I think we should have a good baseline setup.

BRUCE:

Well then, in other words, you've got a lot of work to do, but Rinas, VeeKay, I'll let you get back to work. Thank you. Good luck at the Indy 500 Open Test, good luck at Barber next week, good luck in the Indianapolis 500, and thank you for joining us on Pit Pass Indy. Thank you very much. We wrap up today's Pit Pass Indy presented by Penske Truck Rental with Santino Ferrucci of AJ Foyt Racing. The driver from Woodbury, Connecticut made his first Indy 500 start in 2019 and has never finished outside the top 10. Ferrucci was 7th in 2019, 4th in 2020, 6th in 2021, 10th in 2022, 3rd in 2023, and 8th in 2024. Ferrucci hopes to take Indy 500 legend A.J. Foyt, his team owner, to Victory Lane in 2025 at the Indianapolis 500, and joins me for this exclusive interview. Our old buddy Santino Ferrucci is joining us now. We're at the Indy 500 Open Test. You were out there in your number 14 AJ Foyt racing car and all of a sudden you didn't have any power.

SANTINO:

What happened? We had an engine failure. That's okay. Those things happen. part of it now we get to change motor and hopefully make it back out today if not we'll be out there tomorrow.

BRUCE:

The bad news about when you have an engine failure is you've got to dip into your allotment of engines but the good news is you have a fresh engine now and usually the engine's at its best when it's fresh so can we expect to see you get up there on the speed charts the next day or two?

SANTINO:

I think we'd be up there regardless and we were also due for an engine change coming up and the next few miles anyway so luckily this doesn't actually hurt us as bad as it would if you know it happened if say something were to happen again but uh no this is one of those things where right now we're just testing testing car testing setups going through things that we really don't want to be doing in may so if i get comfortable yeah we'll definitely try and put a flyer up if i talk to everybody in gasoline alley they say the key to the test is everybody wants to

BRUCE:

have their baseline set up when they leave here, so that when they return for the month of May, for real, they know where the baseline is and you go from there. How important is that, and how long does it take to find that baseline normally?

SANTINO:

I have my baseline set up, which is nice, so I already know what car I could start with come May, that I'm comfortable with, that's fast and gets around here. I am pushing myself to try something new this test. to see if it works. And if I can get it to work for me, I think it'll be a better baseline than what I currently have.

BRUCE:

How often do you reflect back to 2023 and what a great month of May you had and how heartbreaking it was to not win the race?

SANTINO:

I reflect back on all the positives from that weekend and what we could have done better. And the reason why we are at this test taking the direction we are is because we found something that we think we can do better. And, you know, you got to be the best to win.

BRUCE:

Is the team now utilizing more of its engineering relationship with Team Penske than it has in the past?

SANTINO:

I'd say it's been being utilized kind of the exact same over the last year and this year. I wouldn't say any more or any less different. I will say that this year is a little bit different with Malukas with us. But in that sense, also with having Mike as my engineer this year, which is different to me, I feel like I have relied on it. But I've also relied a lot on what I've done last year to moving myself forward. So I'm very happy with all that.

BRUCE:

You have an extremely impressive record at the Indianapolis 500, and a lot of people probably want to know what's your secret.

SANTINO:

Man, just treating this race like any other. It's special. I love all the camaraderie here. I love all the fans, all the people that show up, the traditions. I love all of that stuff. But at the end of the day, strap your helmet on and get behind the wheel of that car. You've got to remember, it's any other race, so the championship.

BRUCE:

But isn't it also the ultimate racer's racetrack? Because you're laying it all out on the line when you're running at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in the Indianapolis 500.

SANTINO:

That's very true. I mean, you do have to be one with the car and with the track, and you do take a lot of risk here. But I feel like understanding where and when to take that risk is also crucial to being able to win this race. So.

BRUCE:

So where and when do you take the risk? Towards the end, when you're up front trying to win. Yeah, but it also changes depending on how the traffic is, who you're racing against, and everything like that. But when you walk into this place, it's got its own special feel. The cars even sound so much different around here than at any other racetrack that we go to.

SANTINO:

They sound like airplanes flying around here, which is cool. It's unique. And yeah, I honestly, dude, I can't wait to park my bus in a driver lot and hang out for the month, because it'll be the least traveling I get to do all year. So I'm thrilled to be out there barbecuing, playing golf, being a race car driver.

BRUCE:

And also, how important is it when you are able to put a smile on AJ Foyt's face? because nothing makes him prouder than to see one of his drivers do well at the Indianapolis 500.

SANTINO:

No, that's true. AJ is also giving me some good advice, especially from after a race like 2023. So, you know, it's stuff like that that keeps you want to push forward and, you know, makes you want to win this race even more.

BRUCE:

Before we get ready for the month of May, where you go to Barber Motorsports Park, how's that track been for you in the past, and what do you expect when we return to Barber next week?

SANTINO:

Man, it's been a great track for me. It's one of my favorites on the calendar, like Road America, just a lot of undulation, just different types of corners, high speed, low speed, a lot of good passing zones. It's also one of those things to where we had a great race there last year, we passed a ton of cars. I'd like to better my result without having to pass as many people, but We'll see. I feel comfortable and confident in our setup and the work that we've done to hopefully be there.

BRUCE:

Well, Santino Ferrucci, you're always full of confidence. Put that confidence to work. Good luck in the 109th Indianapolis 500. Good luck at Barber. And thank you for joining us on Pit Pass Indy. Thanks, Bruce. We'll be right back to Pit Pass Indy after this short break.

SCOTT:

Hi, I'm Scott McLaughlin, driver of the number three team Penske Chevy, and you're listening to Pit Pass Indy, presented by Penske Truck Rental.

BRUCE:

And that puts checkered flag on this edition of Pit Pass Indy, presented by Penske Truck Rental. We want to thank our guests. The winner of the 100th Indianapolis 500 in 2016, Alexander Rossi, now with ECR. Christian Lungard of Arrow McLaren, Graham Rahal of Rahal Letterman Latigan Racing, Rinas VeeKay of Dale Coyne Racing, and Santino Ferrucci of AJ Foyt Racing for joining us on today's podcast. Along with loyal listeners like you, our guests helped make Pit Pass Indy presented by Penske Truck Rental your path to victory lane in IndyCar. On the highways, the raceways, and every pit stop in between, Penske Truck Rental keeps you moving forward. Gain ground with Penske. For more IndyCar coverage, follow me at X, previously known as Twitter, at BruceMartin, one word, uppercase B, uppercase M, underscore 500. Pick Pass Indy was at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway for last week's Indy 500 Open Test, and we'll have more interviews from IndyCar's biggest stars on a bonus edition that will be available later this week. The start of a big month of May at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway for the 109th Indianapolis 500. This has been a production of Evergreen Podcast. A special thanks to our production team, executive producers are Bridget Coyne and Gerardo Orlando. Recordings and edits were done by me, Bruce Martin, and final mixing was done by Dave Douglas. Learn more at evergreenpodcast.com. Until next time, be sure to keep it out of the wall.